Curse

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 24, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

If a father opposed a new technology, sunglasses that didnt see clothes... would it not matter?

If he didn't want people looking at his daughters, would that be so bad?

And "Only I can see it" won't hold up in court.

And don't tell me "It's just a game" because these are game forums.

lolwut? You're comparing real people to pixelated characters?

DarkWasp · Mar 24, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Well I didn't mean to start such hostility.

Basicly saying, I dissagree with mods in MMOS. Especialy GW.

UI mods are fine though.

Other games, like Oblivion for example, its better if you install certain mods before launching the game the first time.

Oblivious Moose · Mar 24, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

im ok with some mods people have made.

but there are a few people out there that change the graphics in order to give themselves an unfair advantage.

not too long ago i saw a texmod pic of someone casting GoLE, with the animation changed, to be a giant box above their head, with the words in it. "INTERRUPT ME NOW"

i dont know about you, but if people do things like this, i claim it to be unfair, and unfitting to be allowed.

it is possible to change the skin of players, and other visual aeffects, to give notice to them. like when they are using aegis, or their whole team turns a light green, when they have tainted on. such visual changes can give one player the upper hand, which is what anet doesnt want to happen.

BenjZee · Mar 24, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

Well, TexMod can't create anything except modifying textures that are already there, and they have to be there to exist and work.

This leaves only model modification, UI skinning, and....that's really about it.

The things you mentioned (Spirit Ranges, Adrenaline UI changer, meter at 50/80% HP, etc.) will only help out the beginning player, as anyone in the intermediate to high level will only find this information redundant, as they can determine at a glance the same information without being distracted.

i totally agree with you

How would marking clearer the adrelinine u have help you. Besides you will actually need to play to win a match not just watch adreniline

DarkWasp · Mar 24, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblivious Moose

im ok with some mods people have made.

but there are a few people out there that change the graphics in order to give themselves an unfair advantage.

not too long ago i saw a texmod pic of someone casting GoLE, with the animation changed, to be a giant box above their head, with the words in it. "INTERRUPT ME NOW"

i dont know about you, but if people do things like this, i claim it to be unfair, and unfitting to be allowed.

it is possible to change the skin of players, and other visual aeffects, to give notice to them. like when they are using aegis, or their whole team turns a light green, when they have tainted on. such visual changes can give one player the upper hand, which is what anet doesnt want to happen.

Pretty much sums it up right there.

Notice how skill balances are usualy minor changes but everyone ends up crying "OMG NERFED!"

Its the little things that count. If Texmod advantages are to be allowed, the team is going to have to take that into consideration next time they balance the game.

enter_the_zone · Mar 24, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblivious Moose

im ok with some mods people have made.

but there are a few people out there that change the graphics in order to give themselves an unfair advantage.

not too long ago i saw a texmod pic of someone casting GoLE, with the animation changed, to be a giant box above their head, with the words in it. "INTERRUPT ME NOW"

i dont know about you, but if people do things like this, i claim it to be unfair, and unfitting to be allowed.

it is possible to change the skin of players, and other visual aeffects, to give notice to them. like when they are using aegis, or their whole team turns a light green, when they have tainted on. such visual changes can give one player the upper hand, which is what anet doesnt want to happen.

Man, that's clever. It's also available to everyone, since we can all use TexMod. A decent mesmer or ranger doesn't need the help, but it can turn pretty bad ones into a semi-decent one.

Bryant Again · Mar 24, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Texmod does nothing but change textures and images in Guild Wars. You can't change models, you can't add buttons, you can't exploit strings of data.

BenjZee · Mar 24, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone

Man, that's clever. It's also available to everyone, since we can all use TexMod. A decent mesmer or ranger doesn't need the help, but it can turn pretty bad ones into a semi-decent one.

as 'clever' as it is your still forgetting its not all about interupting GOLE to win a match is it? Everyone in the party would need this mod aswell and what are the chances of this actually helping. To be honest its the same as seeing the GOLE animation anyway

lyra_song · Mar 24, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblivious Moose

im ok with some mods people have made.

but there are a few people out there that change the graphics in order to give themselves an unfair advantage.

not too long ago i saw a texmod pic of someone casting GoLE, with the animation changed, to be a giant box above their head, with the words in it. "INTERRUPT ME NOW"

i dont know about you, but if people do things like this, i claim it to be unfair, and unfitting to be allowed.

it is possible to change the skin of players, and other visual aeffects, to give notice to them. like when they are using aegis, or their whole team turns a light green, when they have tainted on. such visual changes can give one player the upper hand, which is what anet doesnt want to happen.

GoLE already has a specific casting animation effect and sound.

Why do you think spells and stances make different sounds and particle effects?

Good interrupters learn to take these cues and use them. Adding text to it doesn't do anything for those who already know what to do.

And enchantments have a generic particle effect.

~ Dan ~ · Mar 24, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkWasp

If a father opposed a new technology, sunglasses that didnt see clothes... would it not matter?

If he didn't want people looking at his daughters, would that be so bad?

And "Only I can see it" won't hold up in court.

And don't tell me "It's just a game" because these are game forums.

Texmod is similar to sunglasses that skip the clothes malarky.

inorite

You just put more fail into your fail thread, please stop failing.

RedNova88 · Mar 24, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

The cartography mod really pisses me off!

I did it the hard way, but now Legendary Cartographer has become one of the lowliest titles. Because of texmod!

I doubt that. The people I know that have used that mod only really started using it when they were at 99.X% and couldn't find those tiny little specks on their map.

I don't really have anything against it as long as it doesn't get out of control.

sykoone · Mar 24, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

I was wondering my the numbers jumped on my Cartography mod....happens everytime someone complains about it. Thanks! Besides, all it does is remove the monotony of wall hugging the same areas over and over looking for the last .5% or whatever. You've still got to have the motivation to actually go out and earn the title. Even as the creator of the darn thing, I don't have LGMC on any character yet, because I've got better things to do than go hug walls.

As for your other complaints, there's little advantage to be gained in PvP by using Texmod, and that only by someone relatively new to the game. Anyone who's put any real time into tactics and practice already can tell ranges, percentages, and skill animations at a glance.

Brayolnne · Mar 25, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29

re: Cartographer Title
I started using the Cartography mods whenl I was looking for the last 10% or so. And my argument for using it is very simple: Every other title that Anet offers in the game provides more explicit and accurate feedback then what you receive for Cartography title. In game, you reveal .10% (note the decimal!) but you see something like 1.00% of the map revealed. That is a 900% margin or error. While it might mimic historical accuracy when mapping, no other title operates this way. Drunkards, Reputation, Sweeties, Wise, Skill Hunters, Protectors, etc know exactly how much they need and where to get it - mappers don't.

re: Re-skinning Items & Characters
Since all of the changes that occur are only on the TexMod user's side, I don't see how/why this is an issue. I am sure that someone will eventually do something that gives them an edge - but it's probably someone who needs it anyway. What I mean is, as mentioned the game already has custom animations per spell/skill used and for exactly the reason that you need a sign saying "interrupt me now". The thing is the player has simply failed to learn the necessary visual clues. At least, THAT player has - others (particularly PvP players) will already have learned these animations and know that they need to interrupt that character.

As for nude characters, this is equivalent of the carnival cut-outs where you stick your head through a hole and "appear" to be someone else based on the image painted on the front of the cut-out. I mean, I seriously doubt that anyone thinks that I could just paste my face over say... Brad Pitt's or Marilyn Monroe's body and you'll all believe it. If it was that easy we wouldn't have a multi billion dollar diet/fitness industry!

And so I made my gladius look like a crystal sword? Big deal. I see, no one else does. It doesn't have any of the effects of a crystal sword. Nor can I make someone else believe it is a crystal sword. So I cannot sell it to a merchant or other player for the crystal sword price. I can only sell it for the gladius price. Which is correct. So what is the point? Ok, it looks pretty to me. But then, that is exactly the same reason you went through all of the trouble of getting a real crystal sword for yourself. Cause it looks good to you. I cheated and patched mine to look like something it's not. But I still know that it's not actually a crystal sword - and will probably make a point of getting a real one at the first reasonable opportunity. (And no, I don't actually have one.)

re: Unfair Advantage
The one thing that I thought came close to being an unfair advantage was the mod that changed the color of spirits. It made it a brighter greenish-yellow color that stood out more. I personally felt this might alter my game play and decided not to use it. I remember seeing a "fog of war" mod of some kind. But I also vaguely remember thinking that whatever it did wasn't something I wanted to be bothered with.

re: Mods I use
From time to time I use TexMod with the following mods running:

Cartography Made Easy (full set) - for mapping purposes
Cthon's Spirit Radar - see note below
Clearskills - easier to see
Enhanced Hero Skills - easier to see
Enhanced Hero Flags - regular flag does not accurately show where H&H are located, this does
Enhanced Critical Hit - until using this I wasn't sure I was doing any criticals
Enhanced Adrenaline - easier to see

I started using Cthon's for the intended purpose - recognizing the distance at which a spirit can perceive / affect your party. However, I notice that this altered my game play in that I started paying more attention to where patrolling mobs were located. So when using it I almost treat it like the aggro bubble. Whether their are any spirits around or not.

But please note that I use GW 98% of the time without running TexMod. The graphical glitches are minor - but annoying. Enough so that I'm unwilling to put up with them on a regular basis. If I did use it regularly I would probably not run the mapping mods unless actively working on the title.